{"id":548,"date":"2009-03-21T19:22:00","date_gmt":"2009-03-22T00:22:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hugodlr.com\/?p=548"},"modified":"2009-03-21T19:22:00","modified_gmt":"2009-03-22T00:22:00","slug":"the-eucharist-or-what-is-transubstantiation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hugodlr.com\/?p=548","title":{"rendered":"The Eucharist (or &#8220;What is Transubstantiation?&#8221;)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"justify\">I belong to an email discussion list where I&#8217;m the only Catholic (which had made for some fun discussions!). I have 100&#8217;s of saved emails &#8211; I&#8217;m culling through them for some blogger material. So for the next few weeks &#8211; enjoy \ud83d\ude42 Also, I copied and pasted quotes from several websites &#8211; most of the time I made it explicit that I was giving info from another source, but a few times I don&#8217;t think I did &#8211; please excuse the <span>inadvertent<\/span> <span>plagarism<\/span>. \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><\/em><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em>Question: Where and how did the doctrine of Transubstantiation originate? Where do Catholics get the idea that there is a literal transformation of the bread and wine into the literal body and blood of Christ? It seems to me that the words of Christ have to be figurative when He <span>refers to<\/span> the bread and wine saying &#8220;This is my body&#8230;&#8221;<\/em><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><\/em><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><\/em><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><\/em><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">The actual term &#8220;transubstantiation&#8221; is not found in official Catholic theology until the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215, and there the term is used to denote the belief that that bread and wine used in the Eucharistic meal become the body and blood of Christ while remaining bread and wine.<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">However, prior to that scholastic definition and clarification, the notion of the bread and wine only symbolically representing the body and blood of Christ was not common. Here&#8217;s a brief selection of texts: 1 Cor. 10:16\u201317, 11:23\u201329John 6:32\u201371 (I won&#8217;t write these in &#8211; we can all look them up as needed) \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">Eucharistic teaching, it should be understood at the outset, was in general unquestioningly realist, i.e., the consecrated bread and wine were taken to be, and were treated and designated as, the Savior\u2019s body and blood (&#8220;Early Christian <span>Doctrines<\/span>&#8221; pg. 440, J.N.D. Kelly).<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">Ignatius roundly declares that . . . [t]he bread is the flesh of Jesus, the cup his blood. Clearly he intends this realism to be taken strictly, for he makes it the basis of his argument against the <span>Docetists<\/span>\u2019 denial of the reality of Christ\u2019s body. . . . <span>Irenaeus<\/span> teaches that the bread and wine are really the Lord\u2019s body and blood. His witness is, indeed, all the more impressive because he produces it quite incidentally while refuting the Gnostic and <span>Docetic<\/span> rejection of the Lord\u2019s real humanity (Kelly, <span>pgs<\/span>. 197-198).<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><span>Hippolytus<\/span> speaks of \u2018the body and the blood\u2019 through which the Church is saved, and <span>Tertullian<\/span> regularly describes the bread as \u2018the Lord\u2019s body.\u2019 The converted pagan, he remarks, \u2018feeds on the richness of the Lord\u2019s body, that is, on the Eucharist.\u2019 The realism of his theology comes to light in the argument, based on the intimate relation of body and soul, that just as in baptism the body is washed with water so that the soul may be cleansed, so in the Eucharist \u2018the flesh feeds upon Christ\u2019s body and blood so that the soul may be filled with God.\u2019 Clearly his assumption is that the Savior\u2019s body and blood are as real as the baptismal water. Cyprian\u2019s attitude is similar. Lapsed Christians who claim communion without doing penance, he declares, \u2018do violence to his body and blood, a sin more heinous against the Lord with their hands and mouths than when they denied him.\u2019 Later he expatiates on the terrifying consequences of profaning the sacrament, and the stories he tells confirm that he took the Real Presence literally (Kelly, <span>pgs<\/span>. 211-212).&#8221;<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">If the Lord were from other than the Father, how could he rightly take bread, which is of the same creation as our own, and confess it to be his body and affirm that the mixture in the cup is his blood? (<span>Irenaeus<\/span>, &#8220;Against Heresies&#8221; 4:33\u201332. approx. 189 AD).<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">He has declared the cup, a part of creation, to be his own blood, from which he causes our blood to flow; and the bread, a part of creation, he has established as his own body, from which he gives increase unto our bodies. When, therefore, the mixed cup [wine and water] and the baked bread receives the Word of God and becomes the Eucharist, the body of Christ, and from these the substance of our flesh is increased and supported, how can they say that the flesh is not capable of receiving the gift of God, which is eternal life\u2014flesh which is nourished by the body and blood of the Lord, and is in fact a member of him? (ibid., 5:2).<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">The bread and the wine of the Eucharist before the holy invocation of the adorable Trinity were simple bread and wine, but the invocation having been made, the bread becomes the body of Christ and the wine the blood of Christ (Cyril of Jerusalem, &#8220;<span>Catechetical<\/span> Lectures&#8221; 19:7, approx. 350 AD).<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">Do not, therefore, regard the bread and wine as simply that; for they are, according to the Master\u2019s declaration, the body and blood of Christ. Even though the senses suggest to you the other, let faith make you firm. Do not judge in this matter by taste, but be fully assured by the faith, not doubting that you have been deemed worthy of the body and blood of Christ. . . . [Since you are] fully convinced that the apparent bread is not bread, even though it is sensible to the taste, but the body of Christ, and that the apparent wine is not wine, even though the taste would have it so, . . . partake of that bread as something spiritual, and put a cheerful face on your soul (ibid., 22:6, 9).<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">What you see is the bread and the chalice; that is what your own eyes report to you. But what your faith obliges you to accept is that the bread is the body of Christ and the chalice is the blood of Christ. This has been said very briefly, which may perhaps be sufficient for faith; yet faith does not desire instruction (Augustine, &#8220;Sermons 227&#8221;, approx. 411 AD).<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">So more quotes than I thought I&#8217;d put in at first &#8211; sorry! \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">The question of whether or not the bread and wine actually become the body and blood of Christ is not brought into serious question until the 16<span>th<\/span> century with the advent of the Protestant Reformation. By that time, however, Martin Luther and his fellow reformers were rebelling against a corrupted, superstitious form of the Real Presence, for example, that if the consecrated host were scratched it would bleed.<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">The more theological explanation has to do with Greek philosophy, where a distinction was made between the accidents and the substance of an object. The substance of an object was <span>what<\/span> it really was (it&#8217;s essence, it&#8217;s core, the heart of the matter, etc.). The accidents were those parts of an object that were not it&#8217;s essence. So in regards to the bread and wine, the act of consecration changes the substance, but leaves the accidents intact. In other words, the bread still tastes, looks, smells and feels like bread &#8211; it&#8217;s accidents remain unchanged. But it&#8217;s substance (the heart and soul of the object) are now <span>transubstantiated<\/span> into the body and blood of Jesus. Same with the wine &#8211; the accidents (alcoholic properties, color, flavor, etc.) remain unchanged, but the essence (the substance of the wine) is now the real presence of Jesus Christ.<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">For a more homey example, think of us as people. In a crude example, our bodies are our substance and our clothes are our accidents. No mater how we dress ourselves up (shorts and a t-shirt, tuxedo, swimwear, pajamas) our substance stays the same. In the <span>Eucharist<\/span> it is reversed, with the interior (the substance) changing, but the <span>exterior<\/span> (the accidents) staying the same.<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">One last distinction, though. We believe, as we have for <span>millenia<\/span>, that the bread and wine are changed <span>into the<\/span> body and blood of Jesus. That is the doctrine. The word &#8220;transubstantiation&#8221; and it&#8217;s related theology is our attempt to explain how it happens. We happen to use Greek philosophical language to try and explain it, but even should our language fail the Church still holds fast to the sacramental mystery of Christ with us.<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">Also, as a quick aside, since the advent of the Second Vatican Council in the 1960&#8217;s, we have affirmed that the real presence of Jesus Christ is present in various ways during our celebration of the Divine Liturgy &#8211; Christ is present in the person of the priest, in the gathered assembly, in the proclamation of the Scriptures, and in the Consecrated bread and wine &#8211; we literally bring, share and partake of communion throughout the whole Eucharistic liturgy . . . a far cry from the times when many Catholics only dared approach the Eucharist once or twice a year.<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">Blessings &amp; Peace,<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">Hugo<\/div>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I belong to an email discussion list where I&#8217;m the only Catholic (which had made for some fun discussions!). 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